even though Jesse hasn't known Zach for long he knows Zach would never shoot Adam in the back
he would look him in the eyes and shoot him.
Even JR said it I never thought I would admire JR but today I did for what he said about our man Zach

my hate for Ryass grows stronger by every word he utters
he needs to leave this sl asap

Did Kendall see Zach at the mansion? that's the part I am having trouble with. Zach thought fast on his feet he picked up the gun (assuming the one K used) he even fired it (to have residue on him I think)
and let them take him into custody. When asked He said "I came to kill Adam"

Why did Zach confess to something he didn't do; if Kendall fired then there should be glass on the floor right unless there was and I didn't notice it.

KWAK needs to die too

Oh man when Zach found out Ian was alive ... he wanted to get out of that chair and run to him. He was like a caged person in that chair and he had sweet smile on his face because he had learned his son is alive and stable :wub:

Today was great, wasn't it, Osanna?

I loved Zach's reaction when he found out that his son was alive. And I loved Jesse's sensitivity and sensibleness in dealing with him. I know I'm probably not going to be happy with all of Jesse's actions throughout this storyline, but for today...I was very, very pleased.

I'm really intrigues by Erica's actions. She's a wild card. She is one of the few people who appears to truly be unaccounted for. I assume the hooker-heels in the house belong to notLiza.

We saw Kendall and Zach holding the gun on Adam, and if I'm not mistaken wasn't that Tad watching Zach hold the gun on Adam? Then, there was David who was in the closet (n pun intended). Who is left?

Opal, Aidan, and Krystal were outside when the shot happened. And Annie was probably too busy trying to get Emma out of there.

Something about the expression on his face makes me think it was Stuart and not Adam, who was killed. And something about the voice over makes me think Adam sent Stuart into the lion's den deliberately.

But WHY??????? Adam isn't that low down to set his brother up to be shot.

Pratt's Adam would.

There were a couple of thing that the Adam we've come to know and love would not have necessarily done.

However, Pratt seemed determined to demonize Adam towards the end to give justificationf ro killing him off.

The Adam we would not have tried to kill Babe, in a the premeditated manner, Pratt laid out. Particularly, since that would have been when he and Krystal were still in love and married.

The Adam we knew would NEVER have traded his grandson to David Hayward, of all people, just to save his company.

The Adam we knew was a shark, but not the kind of heartless bastard who would deliberately jeopardize the life of a child (particularly the grandson of his "dear friend" and ex-missus, Erica Kane.

The mind of Chuck Pratt is a dark and dangerous place to be. And something about them being so certain it's Adam, and Annie running into Stuart leads me to believe things are not so cut and dried.

According to Pratt's Adam, all of his heinous actions toward the end were justified because he was trying to save his company. Throw in the fact that David has been drugging him and you have a probable (and stupid) motive. A motive, nonetheless. :shrug

I have a feeling it is Stuart the one that was shot not sure if Adam sent him to the mansion on purpose or not The pre Chuck Pratt Adam wouldn't have...
I had heard that David Canary has not been well and has asked for less screen time I don't know how true that is though
If that is the case maybe Adam will pretend to be Stuart which will give DC some time off since Stuart isn't on screen much.

This storyline is a sorry mess but the actors are giving us top notch performances kudos to all of them especially Thorsten and Alicia.

Let's see...


The last time we saw Stuart, he had run into Annie in the courtyard, right? And he was in the usual Stuart apparel.

Meanwhile, Adam was running around with a gun because he knew tat several people were out to kill him for his actions towards them and their families. And Tad was the last to "see" him as he was trying haul him down to the police station for questioning (FAIL, Pratt. Tad doesn't have the authority to haul anyone anywhere. But, don't let little things like details matter. :rolleyes: )

M'kay..so let's say that Adam finds Stuart (who tells him that Annie was looking for him). Wasn't that the excuse she used? And Adam has asked Stuart to impersonate him before, if I remember correctly. In fact, didn't he do it when he was trying to win Krystal back?

So, let's suppose he asked Stuart to impersonate him and to o find Annie to see what she wanted...? I'm trying to figure out how and why Stuart would have been dressed like Adam (because if it was Stuart that was murdered, that would be the case). However, if it really is Adam, this whole speculation is moot.

And this dialogue from Friday (ad today) sticks out:

I didn't read that as sudden remorse from Adam because that wasn't where he was at. He was armed and ready to fight. And he had little or no remorse for the things he had done.

'He was still taunting Krystal and letting her know that her life falling apart was through her own actions. And even when confronted by Erica for what happened to Ian, he seemed more concerned with salvaging Chandler Enterprises than any of the fallout from his decisions.

So, I saw that as him saying that he had to make all of his victims believe he had "died" in order to keep them from coming after him.

Osanna, I think I recall reading rumors about DC's health. And I think they may have been exacerbated by something Pratt said in one of his interviews. I'll have to see if I can find the quote.

If that was the case, and DC needed time off for health reasons, I can see Pratt killing off Stuart and having Adam fake his death. Adam is clearly the stronger of the two characters. And using his twisted logic and poor story-telling, I can see him using whatever drugs David has been umping him up with, along with all the shenanigans that took place beforehand to justify such and action by Adam.

Maybe Adam didn't intend for Stuart to be killed, only to be a distraction. He would have had no way of knowing that the rest of the people after him would shoot without confronting. After all, both Krystal and JR had already held a gun on him and threatened to kill him. So, it's very likely that he may have only intended to slow the next person down to give himself time to get away and not necessarily to send Stuart in as a tethered goat. :shrug

I like your specs
I guess the only way we will find out who really died is when AMC decides to tell us lol
BUT I love speculating about what is going to happen and why things happened the way they did :shuf .

I think it was Stuart as well and it would be cruel of Adam to ask Stuart to impersonate him when he knows so many people in the vallery are after him for blood, and so I dont think Adam did ask Stuart. Adam can be a very cold heartless man but he would never put his brother in the crossfire of life and death. I think that Stuart took it upon himself to pretend to be Adam, it would not be the first time Staurt has impersonated Adam when Adam has been in trouble without being asked.

If I remember Friday correctly wasnt Adam upstairs somewhere near where JR or Tad were about to enter, sitting and fearful and the next minute confident and walking amongst the downstairs area of the mansion? Which really makes me think it is Stuart.

I still cant believe what happened to Tad. While it was an accident why did Jesse fire like that regardless of who it was? Zach was one of his prime suspects and would he really want to take Zach out like that with the crisis his family is going through right now...or any day?

I haven't had a chance to read through this whole thread yet, gotta get ready for work.

But I had to comment on how impressed I was with BOTH Jesse and JR knowing that Zach would NEVER shoot anyone in the back. If he was gunning for you . . . you'd know he. He'd look you right in the eyes before he pulled the trigger.

Is it sad that I am find intent of murder to be extrememly sexy?? Sorry, but if its Zach doing it . . . then so be it. LOL!!

LOVE how Jesse came right out and said "you are NOT a coward" and how JR said "now Slatrer's style."

But did anyone wanna beat the shit (is that allowed?) Krystal when she was pointing the finger at Zach?? This is the woman who actually pulled the trigger on Adam, but the gun was empty. She didn't know that. She INTENDED to kill Adam. Freakin' witch!!

Ryan . . . . this man just needs to go NOW!!! Can't watch hsi scenes. My blood just BOILS every time he opens his mouth. There he goes again . . . accusing Zach of something he knows nothing about.

And Zach's reaction to Ian's being alive?? No words. TK is truly AMAZING!!

She's trying to cover David's ass at Zach's expense.

Bitch. :voodoo

And Jam, you aren't the only one finding intent to murder sexy.

When Zach assumed the position and was cuffed, I wasn't thinking about hauling him off to the PVPD...:giggle